A chatty taxi driver and an unstable wife with hyperthyroidism are careful about their lives, quarreling for their children and complaining about money... However, fireworks are protective covers. Their real identity is a Taiwanese spy and they have been lurking in the mainland for 18 years. This pair of spies called the "poor version of Mr. and Mrs. Smith" comes from the novel opponent launched by the writer's publishing house. The TV play of the same name adapted by him was also broadcast recently. A Taiwanese spy couple lurked in the mainland in order to steal intelligence and complete their mission. Compared with the images of urban spies who are flexible, cunning and well-off in people's imagination in the past, the pair of spies created in opponent have made life a chicken feather. The whole story is also unfolded from the "villain's perspective". Wang Xiaogun, the author of "opponent", is the author of books such as "who am I" and "many thoughts". He is the screenwriter of high-score TV dramas such as "meritorious service" and "Mask". This time, Wang Xiaogun also served as the screenwriter of the TV series opponent. A few days ago, in an exclusive interview with a reporter from China Youth Daily · zhongqing.com, Wang Xiaogun said that after creating the mask, he began to wonder what kind of story he would write if he wrote another work on espionage? What's different from before? In September 2018, CCTV's "focus interview" broadcast the special program "espionage in danger", which disclosed some details of more than 100 Taiwan espionage cases uncovered by the national security department in the "2018 thunder" special action. This kind of news gave Wang Xiaogun great inspiration, so he wanted to make a story of "happening at the moment, spies are around you and me". In opponent, when life is too tight, spies even think about reporting themselves. For example, Li Tang said, "do you know how much the mainland encourages citizens to report spies? The money we earn a year adds up to a fraction. Sometimes I'm moved." This makes netizens ridicule that the spy couple are two "walking 500000", which is worth millions together. For this setting, Wang Xiaogun said that the story is fictional, but the details are true. "This setting will make such characters more grounded.". In Wang Xiaogun's view, writing is like building a house, from digging the foundation to building on the flat ground to decoration. If the writer's pocket is full of "money cans" during his experience life, the built house will have the possibility of "Magnificence". For example, when he created another work, the courtyard of the county Party committee, Wang Xiaogun went to the county for several months to "deeply" the work and life of grass-roots cadres. "The experience in daily life, for the creator, its role is dripping through the stone." Wang Xiaogun said. Zhongqing daily · zhongqing.com: Why did you think of creating a novel focusing on Taiwan spies? Wang Xiaogun: I first wanted to make a story that takes place at the moment and spies are around you and me. We can't tell the real national security police and spies in life. I think that's interesting. Freshness is important to creators. Three years ago, CCTV broadcast a series of detailed news about the arrest of a large number of Taiwan spies on national security day. At that time, I felt that this point might be related to the story I wanted to write. This is an opportunity. Zhongqing daily · zhongqing.com: the mask narrates from the perspective of an enemy spy, and the "spy perspective" of the opponent brings a new experience to the audience. What is the experience of "villain's perspective" writing? Wang Xiaogun: the structure of the relationship between the characters in the mask is a typical two male, one mountain and two tigers; Opponent is a bit like the two wings of a butterfly. Two groups of people are not so prominent. Opponent is essentially a group play. The cat catches the mouse and the "five five open" has both the perspective of the national security police and the perspective of spies. In the design of character relationship, both sides have some echoes, such as Hsinchu, Taoyuan and Hualien, three young people 18 years ago, and Ding Xiaohe, Zhu Hui and Huang Hai 18 years later. In fact, no matter which character's perspective is written, it remains the same to write it as a real person. Zhongqing daily · zhongqing.com: the life dilemma of Li Tang and Ding Meixi, a spy couple, has aroused audience discussion. How is this setting considered? Wang Xiaogun: the spies in our imagination may be spenders, luxury houses and fancy cars. In fact, this is not the case. CCTV once reported a real case that a professor of Taiwan Normal University was bribed by Taiwan's intelligence department when he worked in the mainland. After working for several years, the final funds are only 2300 yuan per month on average. If we apply this true situation to a fictional story, the situation faced by spies will be more special. The story is fictional and the details are true. This setting will make the character more grounded. Zhongqing daily · zhongqing.com: what are the sources of many cases of various means of Taiwan spies in the novel, the contest between national security personnel and spies? Wang Xiaogun: virtual reality adds up. Anti espionage work has special attributes that need to be kept secret, so we can't have a lot of interviews like other industries. Public news occasionally has some enlightening effects, mostly fictional. To make up these plots and passages, I need to pay attention to the logic of life and drama. Zhongqing daily · zhongqing.com: how do you evaluate the performance of the actors after the novel is adapted into a drama? Wang Xiaogun: every actor in this play is very accurate. Before starting the machine, when I read the script, I clearly saw that these actors in front of me were no longer themselves in life, but had become characters in the story. They gave these characters life. Whether it's Guo Jingfei, Tan Zhuo, Yan Bingyan, Ning Li, or such excellent young actors as he Landou, their performances are integrated with the characters. For a few moments, I even felt that they were not performing at all. They lived in that fictional world. Sometimes, roles and actors are predestined. As a screenwriter, I am very happy and grateful. Zhongqing daily · zhongqing.com: what is the attraction of creating spy war works to you? What is the key to a good espionage work? Wang Xiaogun: novels are different from film and television dramas. Novels can express themselves more fully. You can spend a lot of time describing a character's heart, and you can use thousands of words to describe a leaf. Film and television plays actually have commodity attributes. Sometimes they can't be so confident. They need to balance the structure and relationship, the discretion and rhythm between characters and plots. The key to any good literary work is vivid and charming characters. If there are more than five brilliant characters in a work, the story will have its own vitality. Zhongqing daily · zhongqing.com: now spy war works emerge one after another in the market. What are the advantages and disadvantages? Wang Xiaogun: Spy war stories have a natural sense of tension, and the characters also have a more complex inner world. This type will naturally be liked by the audience. In the case of the same subject matter, innovation is not enough, which is the biggest bottleneck encountered by espionage works. Zhongqing daily · zhongqing.com: what impact will life experience have on your writing? Wang Xiaogun: experience in daily life, for the creator, its role is dripping through the stone. Over time, the inspiration for writing will burst out automatically. The two complement each other, so it is particularly important to observe life and explore the world. (outlook new era)